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[00:01:19] Hello everybody and welcome to The Rising Republic. It's your boy, L. Douglas Hogan. And Ryan Buford. Glad to have everyone here today. Go back in history here to April 14th. Are you familiar with the Blue Origin launch? Oh, the all-female crew. The rocket? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, the crotch rocket, whatever the... What was that thing? It looked like a freaking dick missile or something like that. Yeah. It was shaped like a giant female toy and it's just... I mean, it came from Jeff Depp Bezos built it, apparently, so...

[00:01:49] Yeah, it sounds like they were able to... I don't know. They claim to have gone out into space, but I highly doubt that given some of the footage. It's kind of like... What was mind-boggling to me was... There's a lot of issues. A lot of issues. One of the comical ones was they came back talking about how they were astronauts, officially astronauts. Now, I think that the lamestream media actually coined that and started talking to someone. I can't remember if it was Gail Perry or she... I mean, Gail King or she was talking to Katy Perry and said,

[00:02:15] You're officially an astronaut now. What's your thoughts? That kind of thing. No, they're not astronauts. They were passengers. They weren't flying anything. I'm trying to stretch the imagination. There was no videos of them during the launch. There's no videos of them reentering Earth's... And I'm air quoting here, Earth's atmosphere. Yeah. Well, it's like... I'm kind of curious, like what kind of PR stunt is this? I mean, is this just some kind of weird... Like, I don't know. I just don't... I can't wrap my head around it. Is this some sort of weird distraction for something else?

[00:02:44] I don't know. But it's supposed to be... What they were saying was the first all-female visit to space since like 1969. So what? I mean, when you hear these guys talk about it, you think that they're the first females, quote unquote, in space. Yeah. You know, ever. The thing with this is to me is if they were in space, they certainly didn't enter atmosphere. There's something completely wrong about the way they reentered Earth's atmosphere. There was no scorched Earth, you know what I'm saying, upon reentry.

[00:03:10] Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, they're... Yeah. That's... I mean, there's a lot of weird footage coming out. And you can get up in an airplane that's designed to look like that on the inside and be able to float around as if you're in space. I mean, it's possible. There are certain elevations that'll kind of defy gravity. That's how they train astronauts. Well, there's supposed to be this level or this layer in our atmosphere that you're not in space technically, but gravity goes to almost zero G.

[00:03:39] So you're able to bounce around and all this other stuff. I don't know. I just know that their hair and the way they're jumping around, you know, it just... The hair to me, it looked... It didn't look real, like zero G to me. It looked like... I don't want to look like something else. That's why I'm confused. Maybe it was like that the whole time. And that's why there's no videos of them going up, right? Because first of all, astronauts train for years to be able to withstand the kind of G-force that it takes to enter...

[00:04:05] Just to get out of our freaking atmosphere into where they're at even, you know, and beyond. It actually gets easier once you get to where they're at. But just to get from Earth to where they're at, the inertia that the body goes through, it's intense. And without proper training, you would pass out, you know? So I don't believe this. None of them went through that training. I... It's just so weird to me. I just... It's like, what is the point of it? Did you see the launch? And now it's going to become a big thing because... Uh-uh.

[00:04:35] Yeah, when you get a chance, watch the launch. The launch is ridiculous. It doesn't even look like CGI to me. It don't even look real. I'm not saying it's not. I'm just saying it looks freaking bizarre. Like, it don't look real at all to me. It looks completely fake. It completely looks like it's made up on some kind of... So does the landing. Like, whenever it hit and all this dirt plume shot out, it all looked fake to me. And then did you see the door opening? Yeah. And then they were just kind of like, oh, yeah, hey, everything's fine. Yeah. Like, that's the kicker. Like, no spacecraft. Anything that goes into space.

[00:05:05] They're not designed to open from the inside. What would happen if they would have had a blonde moment up in space, right? And said, oh, I'm just going to open this door. And cracked it open. You see what I'm saying? They would all get sucked out. But here it is. You know, they land and they open the door on their own. And then one of the ladies that was with Elmland, that was somebody on the cruise ran over the roof. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. And they keep the door shut. And then Bezos came over with some fake unlocking tool, right?

[00:05:32] That he acted like he was unlocking, like he's unlocking, opening the door, which it was already open and unlocked. And then he let it go and the door bounced like it was made of styrofoam. He's boing, doing, doing, doing. I thought, like, what in the world? Wow. And then when the videos of them supposedly in space kind of floating around, bouncing around and stuff, and their hair is all stuck out in the air, there's like a lot of space. There's not a lot of space between the windows. But when you're looking at the craft after it landed, there's like huge gaps.

[00:06:00] Like, it takes Jeff Bezos to walk like two steps to get from window to window on the one that's on the ground versus when the ladies are floating around in space and they're up against that. Yeah, it's like the width of a woman. Yeah, it's kind of, I don't know. All of it just stinks to high hell of some sort of, I don't like, a publicity stunt maybe or something. I do. I think it was a woke DEI stunt is all I think that it was. Yeah. And unfortunately, it doesn't do anything for women.

[00:06:29] And I think if anything, it sets them back. It's like, okay, well, it's just going to do this and pretend like it's something cool. But then when people realize that it's fake, it just doesn't, it takes all of anything that would have been cool about it away. It just erodes. People don't understand that when you pull the rug out and people expose these kind of lies that, hey, look, this is, it just makes you look worse.

[00:06:53] Exactly. Because even on the outside of the, like on the door, there's the one that went up or the one that was preparing to go up versus the one that landed. There was different markings and everything. Bolts, the hardware, everything on the outside was different. One from the other. And it's like, it's clear that they use two different ships here. I don't know if they use one for filming and they use another one for, hey, let's, you know, land in this. And I don't believe that they went up. I just don't. And that's why, and nobody does. I shouldn't say nobody.

[00:07:22] Most people don't believe anybody with any sense because they can see in all these oddities as we're discussing right now, all these strange things that people are just able to point out with a common eyeball. If we're getting to the point where people are doing this kind of stuff and, you know, they're putting these images out there as if it's reality, as if it's fact, there's going to be a segment of the population that believe that it's true.

[00:07:48] And, you know, some people are going to believe wholeheartedly that these things are true to the point where they're sponsoring these people or doing these kinds of things. And it's just, it's just an erosion of reality. And we're getting to the point where people need to understand the difference between reality and cinema. And it just, it boggles my mind that people can't see right through this kind of stuff. And if anything, it kind of lends credence to the idea that the moon landing was staged. And I never believed that.

[00:08:18] I never thought it was a deal, you know, until I'm starting to see some of this stuff come out about shadow configurations and, you know, how it all worked. And it's like, God, did we, did we even actually do that? I don't think we did. And it's, yeah, it's kind of, to me, I'm kind of thinking, okay, well, are we just, you know, living this weird lie as the United States?

[00:08:41] Having said that we made it to the moon so that we could beat Russia just to be able to make them quiet long enough to where they're not launching missiles at us kind of thing. I don't know. That's exactly, well, you're on the right track because that's exactly what I believe. Because we were in the middle of a cold war and the United States and Russia were, were racing for everything. And they were racing to go to the moon. Right. So, so why not set up some elaborate stage? Did you know, do you know that they can't even, nobody even knows to this day where that, where the moon landing is? The one thing. Yeah.

[00:09:10] Not where it was on the moon, but the one that came back, like it's gone. Oh, it's gone. Like nobody knows where it is. And when, and, and I don't know, I can't, I can't remember for the life of me, um, how, what the story is behind it. It's missing. I doubt it's on the black market somewhere. That's not something that just disappears. If you, if you think, and I've talked about this on one of my shows before, whenever, whenever the president was talking to, I was it, was it, I don't think he was talking to Buzz or maybe it was Neil. I can't remember one of the, one of the guys he was talking to on the phone. Mr. President's for you. They hand him phone.

[00:09:38] It's one of the astronauts that was allegedly on the moon. And the camera shots over to the president Nixon, right. Talking, I believe it's Nixon, um, talking to the astronaut. And there's a picture of the earth in a frame over the shoulders desk on the wall. Like, like how did, how did the picture of the earth get to him when they were landing for the first time on the moon? That makes no sense to me.

[00:10:06] Well, to me, it's like, okay, let's say they made it to the moon. They actually landed. They're walking around. How did they get back up to the shuttle to take them home? I could see getting around to the moon, maybe circumventing the moon, going around it, and then whipping around and coming back. Kind of like Apollo 13, but physically landing on the moon and then launching back up into, into the, the shuttle essentially that's in orbit. And docking with that shuttle, bringing the astronauts back on board and then getting them back home.

[00:10:36] I just, something doesn't sound right about that. Yeah. Especially with as much effort as, as Elon Musk is putting into his systems and showing that, Hey, look, we could potentially do this. We have to have propulsion that does it this particular way. And, you know, he's even asking, why haven't we gone back to the moon? Why don't we just do it? Go, go there, test it out and then come back, you know, but it's, it's kind of like, why is there all this red tape?

[00:11:02] Why haven't, why hasn't NASA done anything of significance in that regard since this quote unquote moon landing? You know, there's all kinds of conspiracies behind that too. People think that there's things that was there. They found things and you know, that they found that there's, you've seen all, probably all the conspiracies where they just kill it, kill the cameras to on the dark side of the moon. And they go over and they find, you know, alien ships and crashed alien ships and life forms, all this other stuff. And they, then it becomes this government conspiracy that they're trying to keep us ignorant and they don't want us to know anything.

[00:11:31] So that's why we're going back. They don't tell us that. Yeah. And it's, I mean, I don't know. There's more to it. There's always more to the story. And like I said, this whole thing with the female crew, all it does is shine light on the potential, the very real potential that the moon landing was staged to me in my mind. Yeah. Because it's like, okay, you know, we're just basically revisiting, regurgitating that news cycle back from 1962 or three or four or whatever the first moon landing was, you know?

[00:12:01] Here we are 40 years down the road and we're just revisiting that same thing. It's just weird to me. Yeah. I agree. That was, again, three years before I was even born and the technology we have now, we can still barely even get out into space. You know, I remember I saw, I saw it happen live. The space shuttle Challenger, they exploded. Remember the story with the teacher, Chrissy McAuliffe and all the crew that, I was watching as a child, watched it explode.

[00:12:28] And, you know, that was in the 1980s or, you know, yeah. Yeah. Early 1980s when that happened, I believe. And you would think that 20 years of technological advances would have made a better ship, right? That could get out of our atmosphere. And even today, the things that we're capable to do on earth, on the land, with our technology, our computer power, our technologies.

[00:12:55] And we're still struggling to even, other countries specifically are struggling to get their systems, their missiles and their rockets and things into the air. Yeah. And then somehow, some way, you know, we landed the cameraman first on the moon to take, just to record them, the first people on the moon landing. You know what I'm saying? Because it was their first. They got, wait, who recorded this? Who recorded them landing on the moon? And then, and then who collected the footage? Because they recorded them leaving too. Who recorded, you know what I'm saying?

[00:13:25] Did they have Wi-Fi back then? Did they have Bluetooth? Was it? This doesn't make sense. How do you get a live feed from the moon? Back then with no wires. Live video feed from the moon. Yeah. With no wires. How does that work? Yeah. There's just, there's too many things that it's like, wait a second. Nope. It just doesn't make sense. And then it's like, okay, well, if that's not true, then what about this other thing over here that I thought was true? And it just spirals from there, you know? Yeah.

[00:13:55] At least in my mind. Well, yeah, mine too. And I don't go too far out with it, you know, because there's still a lot of people that believe, just because NASA lies to us, they still believe that the earth is flat. You know, there's a whole group of people out there that still believe that the earth is flat. And, you know, unless you've been in the military or you've flown from one side of the earth to the other side of the earth and you've seen the constellations in the sky change, you're not going to understand that. You know, they'll say, well, that's, you know, prove it.

[00:14:22] How can I prove to you that there's different constellations in the southern hemisphere than there is in the northern hemisphere? You have to witness it for yourself. Yeah. People in Illinois are not going to see the same stars as the people who live in, say, South Africa. There's another part of Africa, I believe, that's completely opposite side of us. Yeah.

[00:14:37] And, you know, you're going to have, I mean, even if you've ever been able to sit on the beach and observe the curvature of the earth from east or west coast and actually be able to see it, you know, it's possible. So it's just kind of, but it's weird to me how people, like you say, you know, they're, they're, they're, this kind of misinformation will drive people to believe anything. Yeah.

[00:15:03] And it's just, um, it, it, it does no, it does nothing but disservice to both women and critical thinking people, you know, just basically like, oh, these people are so dumb. They'll, they'll totally believe that, you know, we, we put these women up into space and oh, by the way, yeah, everything else that you've been told for the last 40 years is a hundred percent true. Yeah. No. Right. It's having the opposite effect. Yeah. And there's, and yeah, exactly.

[00:15:32] And there's a lot of people out there that believe that since NASA lies to us about a few things, they lied to us about everything. And the thing with me is like the curvature of the earth, the globe and all that, the ancients knew this. Right. Oh yeah. And they, they figured out what built by building obelisks, you know, um, far, far away from each other that they, they lose. They, I don't know how they, they, there's a way to measure it at the top of the obelisk and, and it disappears over the horizon a certain way. And it's not because it's, you lose sight of it in the distance. Um, but they, they measured it somehow with the sun and the shadows that are cast.

[00:16:01] That's what, that's what it was because you measure this, you build the two, two obelisks far, far away from each other. And you measure the shadows at the same point and you will get different measurements. That's because the, the earth is spinning, uh, you know, and it's, it's oval, it's round. And it could only, you can only get different shadows at the same time of the day. If the earth is round, not if it's flat, it's flat. They're going to be the same length shadows just pointing in different directions. Yeah. And people, I mean, that's how we were able to even navigate circumvent the globe.

[00:16:29] You know, it's just people, people gave up on that idea and they were told that they were crazy. And yet here we are, you know, someone floating off into the distance doesn't fall off the edge of the earth. They wind up in a whole new continent. It's just, I, it's weird to me, you know, there's, there is reality. And then there's this other alternate form of like community thought that people just assume that is true. Like having 16 genders and.

[00:16:59] And they, they believe everything. Cause if, if, if you, if they claim, you know, I've, I can't tell you how many people I've, I've, I've, I know, not know, I've heard that say, for example, you know, I'm leaving the Democrat party and here's why. And they will tell their story of how, when they were in the Democrat party, uh, they believed whatever they were told. And it took them an eyeopening moment to actually do some homework and to research, to find out the truth. And then they leave the party.

[00:17:28] Um, cause, cause it's, it's clear if you just, if you just do your homework that there's, there's one party who, who has championed its entire existence, championed, um, uh, civil rights. Okay. There's, there's, there's one party who has fought, uh, to keep, uh, the government small. There's one party that's fought that's fought to keep, uh, uh, less taxes, not, not raise taxes. There's one party who, who, who has pushed tariffs, for example, like Trump is doing.

[00:17:55] And another party who would prefer to keep the tax burden on the, on the people and not on other countries. That's why China has become so powerful is because you got places like Walmart and Amazon, who is receiving all their goods, all everything from China. And they become rich off the back of, of, of, of children's child slave labor. You know, they, they pay these kids or these adults pennies, pennies on the dollar in China to make a product they sell for, for hundreds perhaps of dollars. Okay. Oh yeah.

[00:18:23] And they, they, you have huge tariffs on the United States in the a hundred plus percentile, but we were only tariffing them for like, you know, 23, 24, 25%, for example, 32%, I think in a recent example, when that's the kind of stuff is going on. One country's pockets are getting bigger because they're paying their, um, loosely saying employees pennies to make a product and they're receiving damn near a hundred percent.

[00:18:48] Oh yeah. If not, if not more. Yeah. And I mean, we have been fortunate to have been able to, for the last, well, since Clinton was in office. So the nineties last 25, 30 years, um, to, to be able to benefit from that, to be able to have cheaper products and, you know, have, have things that are, I don't know, the Harbor Freights of the world, so to speak, you know, where you can go out and grab something that's disposable and move forward, move on with your life. Yeah.

[00:19:46] Some people in our political realm are recognizing that as well, man, like, Hey, look, this is not a good thing to be reliant on, uh, China for these goods, for example, and we can do it ourselves here and we can pay our own people, good money and bring jobs and, uh, and bolster our own economy. And instead of, you know, trying to go for cheap goods that are essentially marked up by the time they get here. Right. Like you were saying.

[00:20:15] So I think that the comeuppance is, is, is here. I mean, we were to the point where there's, there's no turning back. We really need to, to move away from China as our source for all of our goods. It's just, you can't, you can't build a house out of straw long enough to, for it to, to take hold.

[00:20:36] You know, you have, you have to be able to start to turn away from that and build up instead of, you know, kind of having a, a, a, essentially a shitty foundation. And that's where we are. I mean, we're a lot, we rely so heavily on this stuff. We become dependent on that cheap, uh, get it today kind of thing. Then you watch the, like the media and the media is all, you know, cause they're, they're down Trump's throat or up his rear end about the tariffs.

[00:21:05] And of course, cause it's his idea. Right. And so they're, they're, they're against it. But here, here you got a group, you know, on the left who claims to be the champions of, of anti-slavery. Okay. And civil rights. And what they're not realizing because they're not told this is when they, when they, when they buy all these Chinese goods that they're actually emboldening the country who still has slaves. Yeah.

[00:21:30] Right. Because in, in, in early America, okay. Uh, before, before, uh, before president Lincoln, slaves were compensated. It was very, very small. You know, they were given food, they were given water, you know, um, Yes. Now, yes, they were there against their will. They were slaves, but that's no different to what we have going on in China.

[00:21:50] We got these, these employees who are, are pennies, pennies. It's not, it's not enough to make a living, but it's, it's enough to say for the human rights organizations to say, well, they're being compensated. And they, and they leave them alone. Did you see by chance the, uh, the interview that, um, uh, Stephen A. Smith had with Megan Kelly. They're talking about DEI. Oh, I, I don't think I caught that one.

[00:22:14] I don't have a clip of it with me, but I watched it and, uh, it's quite interesting because they had a good conversation, you know, cause he's one of those guys I told you about that. Uh, he's, uh, and he used to be, I think he used to be a newscast announcer of some sort and not news cancer or a sportscaster. Uh, but he's gone kind of slipped over into the political arena and he has a podcast.

[00:22:35] He talks a lot of this political stuff, but he's kind of of the, of the mindset that Chris Cuomo is and kind of not full blown conservative. You know, they probably will, he never will be, but their, their eyes have been opened and inkling, you know, and they're seeing things that they weren't, I'm not able to see before. Um, it was a really good interview because, um, he's having a debate of sorts with Megan Kelly and, uh, she was a lawyer, um, uh, attorney.

[00:23:01] So she's kind of smart anyway, but whenever he asked her the question about, about DEI, uh, diversity, equity inclusion, you know, cause he was trying to kind of pin her in a gotcha kind of a thing to say that Republicans don't, and conservatives specifically don't agree, um, with DEI. And she's like, I disagree with the premise of that pretty much. She says, I, she says, if I was to go back in time and I was in charge, I could redo and redo everything. There would be more diversity. There'd be more inclusion.

[00:23:30] She said, I think that, that, uh, mix mixing of cultures and melting pot that the United States is, is, is a beautiful thing. I mean, Doug Hogan, I believe the same thing, you know, America is beautiful like that. Um, she says, the problem I have with this, and she gave two wonderful, um, analogies. She said, the problem I have with this is the equity in DEI diversity, equity, inclusion is what it stands for. The equity in this, here's, here's the problem. She gave two great analogies.

[00:23:55] She says, uh, she says, I'm trying to remember both of them, but the first one she said was, uh, uh, it was grades. Um, she says, so you, you, you go and study really, really hard. Okay. And you get your grade a, your a plus you're 100%. And you have no student over here who didn't study at all. Okay. But because what equity means is that it's equal outcomes. Everybody has an equal, an equal ending.

[00:24:18] You are now going to be a grade C and the other student that didn't study at all is going to be a grade C because they have the same right to, they have a right to have the same grade that you have kind of a thing. Yeah. And the other example that she used, the other analogy was she says it's Halloween. She's explaining this, I think to her, her kid. She said, it's Halloween. And she says, um, there's a kid over here. That's not going Halloween. Like he's not going to go trick or treating. He's just going to sit at his home. He's not going to, he's not going to go out. He's not going to put in all. You're going to go out for two or three hours. You're going to get bags of candy. You're going to get all kinds of goodies. Okay.

[00:24:46] But whenever you're done, you go and give that kid 50% of all the candy that you got because that child deserves 50% of the equity. I mean, 50% of outcome, equal outcome that you got. He did nothing. You did it all. And she's not saying this to prove equity. She's doing this to prove that it's not right. And she ends this by saying it's, it's, it's immorally wrong. It's, it's just morally wrong that it's not right for somebody that don't deserve to receive. Correct. You're working.

[00:25:16] Yeah. We got one person working and one person not working. You get half your money. We're going to text you half to death and give it to this person. Equal outcomes. That's not fair. And that applies not only to the individual, but also to the government. And I think what we're seeing now with a lot of this stuff is, you know, you and I will go out there and all our listeners will go out there and bust our asses all week long.

[00:25:37] And then we donate a portion of what we make for, you know, obscure causes that are, you know, shrouded by NGOs and other sort of government agencies. Like we talked about a couple of months or weeks ago, you know, and that's, that, that is equity in action. You know, equity and equality are two very different things. People don't realize that. And I think you've talked about that too.

[00:26:05] The difference between equity and equality are significant, but people have a tendency over time to, to mince words and make them into something that is not what it should be. Um, the whole black lives matter thing. I mean, it's, that's, that is a form of word manipulation to where, you know, people believe that, okay, if, if you don't believe in this thing, then you are, you know, anti this or anti that.

[00:26:34] And, you know, it's, it's kind of a, it, there's a term for it and I'm drawing a blank on what exactly it is, but essentially it's, it's using words as a form of manipulation to get a desired outcome. And the whole diversity, equity, inclusion thing is wrapped in some, what's that? Yeah, it is deception. It's, it's a thought process.

[00:26:59] It's wrapped in like a burrito form of, Hey, we want diversity and Hey, we want inclusion. And Hey, while we're at it, we want equity as well. And as part of that, like you say, you, you're just kind of, um, it's kind of like a Trojan horse for a socialist communist sort of regime. And for it to creep in as much as it has is really kind of surprising to me.

[00:27:27] And I, I agree with Megan Kelly's statements a hundred percent because it is not right. You know, you want diversity, you want inclusion, but the equity, that's where it's different. That's where the United States, it would not be the land of opportunity that it is. If it was equity across the board, people have.

[00:27:46] They've worked and struggled and been able to come to this country with 75 cents in their pocket and come out with a wealth that is beyond generation because of their own hard work and, and, and due diligence. And that is what makes America great. If you rip that out of the founding components of this country, then you have nothing that it makes America no different than Nigeria.

[00:28:17] Right. So, I mean, it's just, you can't, it's, it's a Trojan horse. And I think it's something that, that we need to get away from far faster than the whole transphobia and all the different sexes and different bathrooms and whatever. The DEI thing is, and we've seen how it's become an issue with pilots, with drivers, with management companies and all these different things where people are being bypassed for other races or other sexes because of that.

[00:28:47] It's like reverse racism, reverse sexism because they have to meet some sort of DEI requirements. Well, if they would just change the E from equity to equality, I think you'd have a lot more people on the right involved in participating in it because we all get equality. Yeah. And equal opportunity. Yes. That's what it boils down to. So we got equal, equality is equal opportunity and equity is equal outcome. That's what people need to understand the difference here.

[00:29:14] That in the end, no matter how hard you work, the person who doesn't work at all is going to end up equal to you. Yeah. So are those women who are up in that space flight equal to an astronaut? No. And again, this is Katy Perry, Gayle King, Lauren Sanchez, Amanda Nguyen, and Carrie Ann Flynn. They're not. They're not nowhere equivalent because they didn't do the training. Right. That's a slap in the face to every female astronaut that's ever been. Yes. And that is not equality.

[00:29:43] That is not equal. You know what I mean? And I think people are having, they're just assuming that that is equality and it's not. It's completely different. Well, Gayle King came back down and once everybody started mocking the whole thing, you know, because everybody hates, everybody can see this and they've taken a huge hit. Katy Perry specifically. She's trying to distance herself from it.

[00:30:10] But Gayle King is PO'd that because she's like, we are astronauts and, you know, you need respect. And basically, and she's a racist anyway, but she's like, if you don't, if, you know, if, if you disagree with, with this and how, what happened here, then you're either racist or you're misogynistic. I'm going to pull that card out. I don't, I don't care. I don't care if you're males or females going up in space. I, I, honestly, I don't care if you're going to space. I would like to, but I don't care if somebody else is. I don't, I don't care.

[00:30:40] Just because you have, you're, you're a singer and you're, you know, a political personality and, and, and you're a filmmaker. And there's a couple of different things on here. You think that somehow that, that because you're rich and you can afford to do something that the common man can't do, that this somehow makes you, that you're the voice of the common person because you got to do this extraordinary thing. Nobody else can do. Even if you even did it. Yeah. Cause Katy Perry, you see her interview. She's like, Oh, I felt, I felt love.

[00:31:10] I felt such a connection to love. And she gave this bizarre speech and she kissed the earth. She was in space for 11 minutes, dude. Um, no, I think the, the, the whole thing was 11 minutes total. She was in space for like three minutes, but up and down, uh, like 11 minutes, something along those lines. Maybe it's 13 minutes, but, uh, three minutes bounced around space. That's what it was. Three minutes of space. Um, and then she came back down, she kissed the earth. It's like, Oh my God, I'm an astronaut. I'm an astronaut. Yeah. I don't know.

[00:31:39] That's that's, that is the definition of equity right there. Anyway, let's take a quick break. Welcome. Yeah. Welcome back to earth. It's the land of equity. All right. Take a quick. On the brink of blackouts again, as power demand reached an all time record high overnight, slivers of the golden state plunged into darkness. Com says it expects to continue with stage six running blackouts for the rest of the year.

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[00:33:03] He's doing a really good job. He's got a great band too. Huh? He's got a great band too. Oh, no. Wait, y'all. Not the Steven Miller band. Different Steven. This is a different Steven Miller. Yeah. This is a different Steven Miller. Oh, funny. No. Uh, yeah. So this is your, uh, he's, he's now, so Steven Miller is like the 12th United States Homeland Security Advisor and White House Deputy Chief of Staff. But he does a lot of like public speaking and stuff. Uh, when I say public speaking, I mean like he talks to the press and this kind of thing. Uh, yeah.

[00:33:33] Check this out because they're, they're, you know, the, the media is, I'm calling the mean stream now. The mean stream media, basically legacy, legacy media. The mean stream is, uh, they're going at it because of the, the whole, we got two major deals right now going on. We got the whole deportation issue. We got the tariff issue, you know, orange man bad. All right. Listen to Steven Miller because this is a, I like listening to him talk besides he's got really, he's got really good communication skills and he always gets down to the point.

[00:34:00] Just a couple years ago, there were two gentlemen. They were from Venezuela. They were members of trained Iroagua. The Biden administration and Border Patrol apprehended them and made the decision to provide them with extensive due process, put them onto a program known as supervised release, and put them on ankle monitors. So that they could go through a lengthy legal judicial determination as to whether these legal aliens who had just set foot on U.S. soil

[00:34:29] might want to live in the United States for the rest of their lives. What was the result of that decision? What was the result of that choice that was made? Those two men kidnapped a young girl named Jocelyn Ungery from her family. They beat her. They sexually assaulted her. They tortured her. They stripped her. They murdered her and they dumped her body. That is what the Biden administration's policy was. Most of your papers never covered her story when it happened.

[00:34:58] To the extent that you covered it at all, it was because President Trump forced you to cover it by highlighting it repeatedly over and over again. He had to shame you into covering it. And each and every one of you that sides over and over again with these MS-13 terrorists, to the extent that you have the financial means to do so, you all choose to live in condos or homes or houses as far away from these kinds of gang bangers as you possibly can.

[00:35:25] If I offered any one of you a rent-free home with no taxes to pay in any of these gang neighborhoods, and I said your neighbors are MS-13 terrorists or Mexican mafia or Sinaloa cartel or Train de Uruguay, I couldn't pay you to live there. But yet you, with your coverage, are trying to force innocent Americans to have these people as their neighbors and that one day their daughter may be abducted from their home and raped and murdered. So you're not going to get an ounce of sympathy from this administration or President Trump

[00:35:53] for the terrorists who've invaded our homes and our country. Awesome. Thank you. Peter. Yeah, I love it. Yeah. And that's the thing. It's finally coming to a head where some of these news personalities and spokespeople or whatever are getting their just desserts when it comes to actual news coverage. They did not cover this kind of stuff. They chose to go around. No, they still don't.

[00:36:22] And this stuff is happening. And they're just kind of bypassing it. And whoever's controlling the media right now is pushing that stuff under the table. I've been in a newsroom before. I've worked in those environments before. And I can tell you, that's exactly what happens. If it bleeds, it leads. But you know what? If it doesn't agree with whatever the local or the state politicians want to have on the front page above the fold, guess what? It's getting buried or it's not even getting reported at all.

[00:36:51] And you're going to get called into the managing editor's office and browbeat when you actually come up with a story that's worth reporting. There is no more Woodward and Bernstein anymore. That doesn't exist. That's why I left the news media because it's just garbage anymore. So I'm glad that this guy is actually standing up to these people and telling them to their faces, you're doing a shitty job.

[00:37:19] And if you would have done your job, you would have known that this is an issue. And why are you siding with these stupid terrorists? But you would have thought after this last election, the results of this last election, that their eyes would have been open. Yeah. I mean, how could you not? And especially, you know what, I haven't seen any news media reporting is the massive decline in illegal border crossings and illegal,

[00:37:48] what do you call it, like terrorists that are crossing the border and stuff like that, people that are getting caught. I mean, it's just the difference in the numbers alone is jaw-breaking. Yeah.

[00:38:32] They're not going to be pulling up next to people on the street and scooping them up and deporting them. American citizens. That's not how this is going down, but that's how they portray it. Yeah. Here's another video. This one's from CNN. Listen to, and I can't remember the name of this lady on the CNN show here, but she's, just a second here. Let me make sure I got my notes right. Yeah. I can't find what, can't find what show this is, but there's a Republican strategist on here by the name of sure. Michael Singleton.

[00:39:00] And so what CNN likes to do is get a bunch of, you know, they have like a round table discussion and they'll let all the Democrats talk and get their points out. And they all agree with each other. And then when the Republican or the conservative tries to talk, they cut them off. They try to interfere with what they're trying to say and the point they're trying to make. You know, you're just talking points and all this and that. But this is that audio clip. I am going to move on. I'm going to move on because this is not a conversation about the tattoos.

[00:39:26] One of the other things that happened this week is that a California judge said that you can't just scoop people up and deport them without a warrant. And in that case, basically, the judge is saying, you know, you're basically taking anybody who's in a particular area. If they don't want to talk to you, you're taking them, detaining them and assuming that they are deportable and that you can't really do that anymore.

[00:39:56] I'm going to pause it right there because this makes me angry that this is what they're talking about. The left doesn't seem to understand abstract thinking and they just see this is what's happening. They see, you know, a van pull up and a bunch of people with black uniforms and guns and they grab these guys, they stick them in the van, they take them back and they deport them.

[00:40:19] What they don't know is it takes weeks or months of hard work and dedication to track these guys down. We're talking about leads. We're talking about people putting their life and limb out, you know, going undercover to locate these individuals and communicating this information back to the group that's going to move in and take them up.

[00:40:42] There's more than an abundance of information collected and gathered before a person is apprehended and taken into custody. The Fourth Amendment, your right to privacy is the most, one of the most sacred. It's just as sacred as the first and the second. You know, nobody in this country just gets gooped up, you know, without due process. And they're acting like this is what's going on.

[00:41:08] Like a lot of work has gone in to making sure that these people are, in fact, illegal immigrants. And she mentioned the tattoos at the very, very beginning, weren't she? You know, that's another clip altogether. But while we're talking about the tattoos, what he had on his hand, you know, there was a skull. Actually, I've got a picture of it here because I pulled it up.

[00:41:33] So there's, okay, so on this guy's hand, there's an M on his index finger and it goes M, S, one, three. But there's not, there's a marijuana, a leaf, right? M for marijuana. The next one is a smiley face, an S for smiley face. There's a cross on the third finger. That's a one, okay? And then the three is a skull. And you're like, well, why is it a skull?

[00:41:59] Well, because there's a dark outline around the, around the top of the skull and around the rim of the skull down around the right, or be the skull's left eye and background under the jaw. So basically there's a, the number three there and it's being hidden by a skull. And so what this marijuana smiley face, the cross and the skull is, is M S one, three, M S 13. And that's what everybody's been talking about. All the left talks about all the time. There's no M S 13 on us because there's a Photoshop picture going around with somebody

[00:42:28] typed the M M S one, three on there to show what these, what the symbology is. And they believe, and there's people believing that, that, that Republicans, and I know Trump has actually fallen for this cause he's seen that he's got a picture of this. He believes it's a, it's a M S one, three is actually tattooed on there. No, Mr. President. Um, I'm sure he'd been corrected by now. Um, that those, those tattoos are symbolic and the M S one, three was typed on there to show the dumb people and not necessarily mispronouncing to show the dumb people who don't understand

[00:42:57] symbology or, or abstract thinking that these, these signs and symbols actually mean something. That's what's going on here. Yeah. What, what the judge is saying is, is nothing radical. This is basically comports with existing law. It comports with decades of decisions around this matter, which in like pure layman's basic terms means that you ice agents cannot go after people, arrest them and detain them solely

[00:43:23] on the basis of being brown, having brown skin and being working class. And what was so interesting about this case for me is that the, the border patrol did not contest any of the allegations. They just actually claim that they changed their guidelines. They were very responsible. It's just, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a question of due process. Whatever we feel about Mr. Abrego Garcia, it's honestly irrelevant. All these questions for the immigration judge on Mr.

[00:43:53] Garcia. We keep saying that, that there was no evidence that this guy belonged to a gang. That's not true. No, that is true. It's not true. No, no, no, no, no. Hold up. We always have to play this game of interrupting people when they're talking. But you're saying. Who's the point of me being on the show if I can never finish my fricking point? This is getting really annoying, Abby. Hold on. Everyone else has made their statements. I haven't yet to say anything. Hold on a second. Okay. I mean, Jesus. Hold on a second. You're so angry. Because I want to say something.

[00:44:22] And I have a point of view to make it as well. Hang on just one second. Share, Michael. Let me ask you a question. The question is, has the government presented evidence in court that Abrego Garcia is a member of MS-13? And my response. And the answer is no. That has not happened in court. But it doesn't mean that they have not made those claims publicly. It doesn't mean that those claims are not in police reports. It doesn't mean that they're not in police reports. They're just not statements that were made in court cases.

[00:44:52] And in 2019, the immigration judge at the time believed the Prince George's County gang unit and the evidence that they presented before that judge at the time that Mr. Garcia did indeed belong to a gang. This is not my opinion. You can. People can Google this crap. They can Google this. CBS reported on this. If a judge believes it in 2019, is it now all of a sudden not true? The judge granted him a withholding of removal. I acknowledge that fact. Which is a different issue. Hold on, hold on.

[00:45:19] But the point remains that a judge found the evidence to be credible that Mr. Garcia did and didn't belong to a gang. So now all of a sudden we're just not going to believe judges? The judge? We can't have it both ways. I don't want to go too far down this rabbit hole. But my only point is that the government has not presented beyond the police report. They have not actually presented the evidence to prove that he belonged to this gang. So police reports are not considered evidence before a court of law? Do judges not consider police reports?

[00:45:49] What are we saying here? But, Michael, what was the original? I actually want to finish the point. It absolutely is relevant to the argument from the administration, which is that Mr. Garcia belonged to a gang as one of the reasons of deporting him out of the country. But you guys are saying there's no truth to it. There's no facts. That's not true. The Constitution is very clear. It does not say citizens. It says no person should be deprived of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness without due process. It doesn't matter what he's done in his past. It doesn't matter.

[00:46:20] Wait a minute. Let me finish. The Boston bomber had due process. Actually, yeah, that's a gang. That's what this is about. I gave you time. Let me finish. He was also an American citizen. This is a president who continues to twist the Constitution to adapt to whatever his vision is. To the point of the two-year-old who was deported without due process, an American citizen, his father did not want him to go. And the only access he had to his daughter was listening to his daughter cry in the background in a one-minute call.

[00:46:46] That four-year-old did not get access to a doctor, despite the fact of having stage four cancer, did not have his medication with him when he was deported, an American citizen to Honduras. This is what this president is doing. He is twisting the definition of the Constitution. And people like you are disparaging character to try to justify the disparity. I'm not disparaging. I'm not disparaging. Due process does matter. You have to process it. But the idea that Mr. Garcia's past doesn't matter is ludicrous.

[00:47:11] We live in a sovereign nation, and this idea that people can just come into our country and do what the heck they want to do is absurd to me. And if Democrats want to die on the seal, I promise you, you'll regret it politically. So go right ahead. Go right ahead. That means that's for Americans. Go right ahead. We don't want people breaking our laws coming into our country. That is a fact. Let me let Scott have a word. It seems to me that the political analysis of this, though, is, and a lot of average

[00:47:38] people are looking at it this way, why is it that we can let 20 million people into the country just walk across whatever, and there's no real process for them to do that? But then we have to individually pick out every single person and go through years upon years upon years of paperwork and this and that and the other. And all we're trying to do is send them back to where they came from because they came here illegally in the first place. 20 million in with no process?

[00:48:08] How do you get 20 million out with years and years of people fighting every single case? You can cherry pick any case you want. But the reality is the crisis that put Donald Trump in the White House was caused over years and years and years of neglect and letting people walk into here without any process at all. And now you're trying to gum up the works to keep them here. A lot of them came in with parole. A lot of them came in. The polling shows 54% of Americans want Mr.

[00:48:37] November polling show Donald Trump won the election. That's CNN polling show. Well, you know, the public is shifting. We are a sovereign nation and you cannot just come into our country illegally whenever the heck you want because we can't do it to any other country on the face of this person. Asylum is illegal, right? If you come in illegally, you have to leave. Americans are tired of that. We do not have unlimited resources. Who was here illegally with a deportation order? Marco Rubio's grandfather. All right. Let's. We're not talking about Marco Rubio. Now we're not? Now that's not relevant? Good Lord. I'm done with that argument. Bunch of children. My God. Yes.

[00:49:04] And that was a CNN news night with Abby Phillips. That's who that was. So I spend a fair amount of time with native Hispanic men and women who work with me or I work, you know, in a secondhand way with them to make sure that they're able to get their jobs done basically.

[00:49:29] And overwhelmingly, every single one of them that I've spoken to has been in favor of the deportations. They usually are if they came over fairly the right way. Correct. Yeah. And these are people that, you know, their, their families have started here from, you know, two or three generations back, maybe more. And they've, they've raised children here.

[00:49:55] They've sent money back home, you know, whether they came over illegally or not, they're, they are still, you know, trying to live the life. But for the most part, the people that I know who have stable, able jobs and they're, they're contributing to society. Every single one of them, they want it to happen because just like I mentioned with the female

[00:50:20] astronauts, all of a sudden you have people who feel entitled to be able to just show up. And it's a slap in the face of the people who have been here and who came across and who did the work. And then they're the ones that are getting, you know, they're, they're getting slapped on the back because, you know, Hey, you know, we, we want, we want to have all this equality and everything. No, even they're like, no, that's, that's below. That's bullshit.

[00:50:50] You know, we work here, we do this. We went through the process. We did it the right way. You don't just get a free pass. I don't care what your race is. But to me, it was eyeopening because I was expecting the opposite. You know, I was expecting a lot more of those people to be like, Oh no, they come over and we want them to be here. And I'll know it's opposite. I mean, they don't want them here. That's the funny example of equity, you know, cause you got somebody that came over. They went through the process. They took the, they took the test.

[00:51:17] You know, the one where you got to answer all the questions you gotta be able, you know, to answer questions about the constitution, uh, speak English. You know, there's these different kinds of things that they have to qualify for. And then you got this other group who's coming over illegally. Okay. So equity is, it doesn't matter if you come in the hard way, which is the right way you come in or you, you swim across, you know, uh, uh, the river and you come over here and you, and you enter in illegally at the end in equity. You're both being American citizens. That's not fair.

[00:51:47] Equality is you both have a chance. Correct. You both have a chance to come over here and be American citizens, but you got to do it the right way. You have an equal opportunity. And if you show up on equal terms, you can do the thing. And if you have people that are like, no, I just come over illegally and this is my deal. Then well, guess what? You get a free pass to Honduras or El Salvador or whatever it might be, but you're in here. And if you want to come back, you can do it the right way. That's there's nothing wrong with that. You know?

[00:52:17] And I just blows my mind that these people like, Oh, you know, you sent a two-year-old out. Well, what the hell is that two-year-old doing here in the first place? Right. How did that happen? And they're all like, well, you separated them of the family. Well, if a serial killer has a child and, you know, he kills a bunch of family and he gets arrested, are you separating the family? Like the separation has been going on for years in this country. You don't arrest the child and put it in prison with the kid, you know?

[00:52:44] So yeah, you send the kid back or you do something else with the kid. You hold the kid until you find a means to take care of it. But yes, you have to separate them because you cannot leave a child in the custody of a criminal. It doesn't work that way. I mean, it just, it boggles my mind that the left thought process where like you say, it's just there's zero rational thought. But it hasn't always been that way. Back when you go back to Bill Clinton, I mean, Bill Clinton, you used to be a strong advocate of, of, of deporting illegal immigrants.

[00:53:14] Hillary Clinton was too, when she was working for Obama as the secretary of state, Chuck Schumer was, they were all echo chambers. Or whatever the democratic president wanted to do. In fact, I didn't put up a compilation of audio, but I went through it before this show. And every single one of them was with big time when they're running their campaigns, big time deporting illegal immigrants. But I got one, one thing here that I found this was uploaded by CNN 10 years ago. Here's their savior, the Democrat savior, Barack Obama, and what he had to say with it.

[00:53:43] I continue to believe that the best way to solve this problem is by working together to pass that kind of common sense law. But until that happens, there are actions I have the legal authority to take as president. The same kinds of actions taken by democratic and republican presidents before me that will help make our immigration system more fair and more just. Tonight, I'm announcing those actions.

[00:54:09] First, we'll build on our progress at the border with additional resources for our law enforcement personnel so that they can stem the flow of illegal crossings and speed the return of those who do cross over. Second, I'll make it easier and faster for high-skilled immigrants, graduates, and entrepreneurs to stay and contribute to our economy, as so many business leaders had proposed.

[00:54:34] Third, we'll take steps to deal responsibly with the millions of undocumented immigrants who already live in our country. I want to say more about this third issue because it generates the most passion and controversy. Even as we are a nation of immigrants, we're also a nation of laws. Undocumented workers broke our immigration laws, and I believe that they must be held accountable. Especially those who may be dangerous.

[00:55:03] That's why, over the past six years, deportations of criminals are up 80%. And that's why we're going to keep focusing enforcement resources on actual threats to our security. I'm going to stop it there, but he's about halfway through the video. Did he say anything that you disagree with? No. Me neither. I actually agree with it. Yes, I do too. But check this out. So I did some digging. And you guys can find this on Infographics. It's a nonpartisan statistics group.

[00:55:28] Bill Clinton, he deported 12 million illegal immigrants in his eight years. 12 million. How many indictments against Bill Clinton for doing that? Maybe one or two? No. For that, no. There was zero. Obama in his two terms, 5 million deportations. How many indictments? Zero. Zero. Biden, in his four years, 2.8 million deportations. Indictments? Zero.

[00:55:58] Now, Trump hasn't reached 2.8 million yet. And I don't have the statistics because he's still in office, right? But his last, his first term, 2 million. Under Biden's. And he has been indicted how many times? Oh, dozens. I don't even know. There's a lot. And they keep throwing them all. How come it's okay for the left to do this kind of stuff, but it's not okay for the right to do this kind of stuff? It's because of who he is.

[00:56:25] It's because the party he stands for is because of MAGA. It's sickening. Okay. So, here's what I want to do because we're at an hour. But I know that we both have some stuff going on. Why don't you tell everybody what you got going on right now? Oh, yeah. So, later this month, I'm going to be engaging in a live speaking event. I'll be teaching three different classes up at the Thrivalist Fair in Addie, Washington, which is kind of in the northeast corner of the state.

[00:56:54] So, if you guys are interested, check it out. It's, I think it's thrivalists.org. And if you're curious about it, want more details, just shoot me a message and I'll see what I can do to send you the details. But I'm looking forward to it. It's going to be the weekend of Memorial Day. So, it's the 25th and 26th, I believe, two-day camp out event. So, check it out if you guys are interested and if you want to meet me in person. That's a good opportunity to do so. And that's Thrivalist, like Thrive?

[00:57:25] Yeah, like Thrive and Survive. Thrivalist, like Survivalist. Thrivalist Fair. Yeah. So, do check it out. And if you're in the region, feel free to stop in and say, hey, I'm happy to meet folks. And if you're a listener, you know, feel free to pop over. Yeah. Patriot Rising, 1773 at gmail.com. Contact Ryan. Just put Thrive, Thrivalist, Thrivalist Fair, something along those lines in the subject section to see if we can get something going for him.

[00:57:54] But it's PatriotRising, 1773 at gmail.com. Awesome. I have a new book I'm working on and I've actually got six beta readers on it and I can't give out the name of it yet. So, it's super secret sauce right now. I will tell you that it's about an EMP. I will tell you that it's about an EMP that goes off over the Midwest. I'll also tell you that I have selected six beta readers, three male, three female, three friends, three strangers.

[00:58:22] I try to keep a balance like that so I could, you know, I don't want somebody to throw me kudos. Yeah. Yeah. Just because they know me. Right. And they've been friends with me for a while. But all these are avid readers and book fans, if we want to call them that, of the stuff I've written in the past. And the three strangers are not. I don't think that they've read anything of mine. But I'm a member of a 10,000-person group called the Dirty Dozen, DD12. It's on Facebook.

[00:58:52] And I'm one of 12 featured authors on there. And so, I made a post and put a post for interest. And I laid out the rules for involvement in this. And I selected six. And I had a lot of applicants, a lot of applicants. But like I said, I try to keep the number small. I don't want to get too much. It gets sloppy when you put too many beta readers out there. There's non-disclosure agreements and different kinds of stuff like that. So, you've got to kind of keep it rolled in a little bit.

[00:59:22] But again, it is an EMP book. And, you know, here's the thing about EMPs. To me, it's the same as martial law. We've never been hit with electromagnetic pulse. Right. So, what's an expert? Well, who's an EMP expert? You know, it's generally, it's not somebody that's lived through it. Right. Because we don't have any of those people. But it's somebody, and I'm not claiming to be one. I've never written a book solely on EMPs. I just write fiction stories about EMPs and stuff.

[00:59:51] But I would like at some point to have an EMP person, somebody that has studied this. Because in my mind, that's what makes a person an expert in any topic. If you've studied this and you've written a book on it and you've sold a few copies, that qualifies you. Same thing. Authority, yeah. Yeah. It makes you an authority on the topic at hand. It's the same thing with martial law. You know, martial laws. You guys have all heard me talk about martial law. And I wrote a book called Surviving Martial Law. I've never lived under martial law. I've written a book.

[01:00:21] I've sold a few thousand copies of it. It's happened a few times in the United States, but they were regional. They were localized sections, if you will, of martial law for a short period of time. One being over Hawaii, most recent, that they weren't even a state yet. So they're just a territory. But yeah, it's that kind of thing. I enjoy talking about EMPs, and I've only written one other book with EMP involved.

[01:00:52] And well, there's one that's happened actually in my Tyrant series, closer to maybe, I think, maybe in book three. And I wrote a zombie novel where EMP kind of happened early on the set off, some kind of weird stuff. Yeah. I went a little out there with the science fiction stuff, highlighting and underscoring and emboldening the word fiction, because there's a lot of fiction in that book. But it was enjoyable. It was a fun read. I mean, a fun ride. Nice.

[01:01:19] But that was called, actually just put that one out in German, actually. So that one's over. Oh, that's that one? Yeah, very cool. It's one of my books that's in No Light Beyond. I got a copy here, a German copy here, Kain Light Dahinter. I've talked about it. I'm sure I'm pronouncing it wrong. Kain Light Dahinter. No Light Beyond over in Germany. Good stuff. But anyway, all right, I'm just going to close things out there. I want to thank everybody for listening. I'm L. Douglas Hogan. And I'm Ryan Buford. Thanks for joining us, Tony. Thanks.