Patriot Power Hour #308 feat. NBC Guy & Intrepid Commander

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[00:01:02] This live episode features the situational awareness you need to practice self-reliance and independence. Introducing your hosts, Ben, the Breaker of Banksters, and Future Dan, the editor of FutureDanger.com. June 10th, 2025, episode 308 of the Patriot Power Hour. This is Ben, the Breaker of Banksters, here with Future Dan and a couple special guests.

[00:01:29] We got the one and only Intrepid Commander as well as NBC Guy, Dave Jones. How y'all doing tonight? Hey everybody, what's going on? All right. Hey, we're not going to belabor the point. This is actually a very serious, important episode. All of our episodes are important, of course, but got all types of breaking news. And with all four of us on here, I just want to hand it over to Dave Jones. Dave Jones, go through this security column on FutureDanger.com.

[00:01:58] We're starting with this up front. We're going to talk for a long time about it, but we want to just hit these headlines. Have at it, sir. This is the second column. In future danger, federal immigration raids face rioting in LA. Dozens arrested. Riots erupt in LA ice facility. National Guard.

[00:02:24] LAPD confront rioters in Los Angeles amid ice raids. Los Angeles war zone. Insurrectionist mobs attacking cops. Set fires block 101 freeway. California anti-ice riots take over the freeway downtown as driverless cars are lit on fire.

[00:02:55] Los Angeles riots continue for a fourth day. Massive looting breaks out in LA riots. Ninety-six arrests. Failure to disband. 14 looted arrests. One arrest each. Two officers injured and taken to the hospital.

[00:03:27] Federal property military reinforced. Marine battalion deploys to LA without arrest power unless POTUS invokes the Insurrection Act. Second battalion. Seventh Marines moved to augment the support of DOD protecting federal facilities and property.

[00:03:55] Marines arrive in LA. National Guard federalized. All Democrat governors released a joint letter responding to the president deploying the National Guard in California. California sues POTUS over National Guard deployment.

[00:04:22] Governor of California asks court to block the president from using troops to enable deportation raids. Foreign blacks ops suspected. FBI arrests another Chinese national student for smuggling pathogens into the United States.

[00:04:48] Student from a biological institute in Wuhan, China sends four packets containing biological material linked to roundworms to the University of Michigan laboratory. Protests violently suppressed.

[00:05:18] POTUS warns protesters come to riot in the U.S. The Army 250th anniversary parade in D.C. will not be met, will be met with force. Tens of thousands of protesters.

[00:05:41] Protesters fueled by Los Angeles riots spread to New York, Chicago, Dallas, and Atlanta. Brutal political violence ensues. The Department of Justice investigates who is funding the LA riots, providing body armor and face masks.

[00:06:07] New Jersey Congresswoman shouts, we are at war, the political, at a political rally. L.A. mayor threatens more mob violence and insurrection unless ICE withdraws from Los Angeles. insurrection. War with China starts.

[00:06:38] War with China starts. China sends two aircraft carriers deeper into the Pacific for the first time ever. War with Russia starts.

[00:06:49] Ukraine strikes Russian missile bases, damaging launchers, Griffin Lightning, NATO exercise with 26,000 troops in Poland and the Baltic states. National Guard activated.

[00:07:14] National Guard deploys for violent anti-ice riots erupt in Los Angeles. President calls up 2,000 National Guard troops to counter illegal immigration riots in California, bypassing the governor. POTUS orders an additional 2,000 National Guards to Los Angeles as the riots continue.

[00:07:43] Great job, Dave. That is possibly the most articles in a single column. I agree. Is that true, Future Dan? What are your thoughts there? And then, of course, we could talk about any and all of these articles. But, Future Dan, what's your thoughts there? Since 2020. That is the biggest I've ever seen it. 2020 was the last time you'd see that much in one place. I believe it.

[00:08:12] And Trump, and this is one of the articles, and we can go in so many ways. I'll let you guys decide. But Trump spoke today and said, in 2020, I was waiting for the governors to act. They didn't. And I promised I would never do that again. Promised myself I would never let that happen. And, well, certainly not happen. Dave Jones. I know you just spoke a whole lot, but what are your initial thoughts? You went through all of those. How concerned are you right now?

[00:08:40] Well, there's so many things I want to talk about. And first of all, L.A. Why are they going to lower Alabama? Alabama. Yeah, it's different L.A. Oh, okay. Okay. So, the biological hazards, I think this is the second or third person the FBI has arrested in connection with something like that. And it's all against crops and livestock.

[00:09:09] So, why is China putting people into this country with this kind of stuff now? It's a bio war. What do you think, James? That's a bio war. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. You know, why we don't do something with Wuhan, you know, mess up their computers, cyber attack. When are we going to do the asymmetric warfare like China's been doing for years?

[00:09:40] Intrepid Commander, I want to get some of your thoughts both on China and what's going on in lower Alabama. I'm going to give you guys a money metric. Because I think that's a, it's more than a money metric, but it's an important metric to, I think, explain not only what I'm feeling about it, but what the country's feeling about it. Our sponsor, Lima Tango Survival, I was talking to him earlier tonight.

[00:10:07] And the reason he emailed me is because he said, over the last month, things were pretty slow. So, all of a sudden, overwhelmed with orders. So, I wish I could attribute all that to everything we've been doing here at PBN, but something tells me it's got a lot to do with what the hell's going on all over the globe right now.

[00:10:34] So, you know, my position with China has been, I mean, you know, if you create the precursors for fentanyl and kill 100,000 Americans a year with it. Right. I don't know. What else do you need to, what other kind of attack do you need? You know, it's clear that they're, they're going to chip away at us and, but I'll give them credit. They're really good at pushing the button as, as close to launch as they can. Aren't they?

[00:11:04] I mean, they're really good at that. They really are good at that. What I'm interested to see in the streets is, you know, is this, is this going to linger? Is Saturday going to be something or is it just going to be another one of these sad sort of left-wing protests? I really have trouble believing that number one, the governors of these states are going to let these things get out of hand like they did in 2020, particularly those, you know, governors who are siding with the right.

[00:11:34] And also then Donald Trump, you know, in places like Chicago, him keeping his nose out of it, because I think we all know where, where it goes. We've seen it years ago. We know exactly how it all goes. It's, I opened the week up this week by, by announcing the, the great big, you know, sale in LA because it's a shopping spree in LA right now. I see the people running through Adidas stores and CVSs with bags and boxes full of things.

[00:12:03] And that, you know, it is what it is. It's a summer shopping spree out over there now. It's got nothing to do with ice. I don't know if you guys saw the one Latino lady who had the balls to go out there with a sign and explain to the writers how one of her loved ones was murdered by an illegal alien. She's legally here. And they, the crowd, you know, shouted her down. Some dude ran into her with his bike. It was real.

[00:12:30] It was a real honorable show of, uh, of the mostly peaceful protests, you know? Yeah. Well, Trump said it today. He said, if I did not intervene, this would be way worse than it is right now. I'd be burning down like the Palisades, just different parts of town. And, uh, more of a man-made and, and long story short, I hope nothing, not only in LA, but other areas don't expand.

[00:13:00] Um, I've been listening to a lot of Alex Jones lately. I'll admit it. I'll be proud of it. And he said for the last six months that after Trump won and they couldn't stop him and he was sworn in that they're going to have a summer of trying to burn everything down. Number one, and we've already seen that, them try that, but number two, when that happens, either there will be a false flag or an actual massacre.

[00:13:27] Kent state or worse dozens mowed down again as a false flag or just some trigger happy guy. Right? So long story short, I'm looking out for that and worried as much or more about someone trying to prime the pump and, and have some sort of pipe bombs at one of these protests. Or shooting them and trying to say, Oh yeah, it was some Trump supporter did that. And I'm way more worried about that at that point. What do you, uh, future Dan, maybe I'll go to you first.

[00:13:55] What do you think about the potential for a spark bringing this to that next level? Yeah. You know, in fact, I, I think we were saying that about these circumstances as early as Alex Jones on paper, Patriot Power Hour. During the timeframe of the election at Trump's election, you know, we, we talked about, you know, riots are on the horizon in the summer of 2025 and they're here. It's June. They're here.

[00:14:22] So I don't want to say inevitable, but they're here. And I got an announcement to make about the U S army's 250th anniversary parade. I'm going, I'm going, I'm going to get on the, I'm going and I'm getting on the ground footage. And if there's any kind of, if there's any kind of protests or violence in, in, in the vicinity that I happen to make it to, I'm going to be there to report it.

[00:14:52] Dang. That's awesome. That's breaking. I didn't even know that. So that's the Saturday, right? Yeah. This Saturday. That will be an awesome parade to see, man. I'm sure that would be something to see in DC. 5,000 army guys. Tanks, artillery pieces, everything. It's going to be awesome. Awesome. It's going to be awesome. Something of note for the listening audience.

[00:15:20] And we probably anytime between now and Saturday that anybody gets behind a mic on PBN, we should probably mention it is the no Kings.org website. Yeah. No, no, this is the actual protest website. Right. Yeah. They have a, they have a, they have a map up where you can go see in your immediate area with what's planned and what time and that kind of thing.

[00:15:45] Just in case, you know, you wind up driving around downtown and turn into a line of idiots with gas masks on or whatever, whatever kind of flavor you get around your way. You know what I mean? I mean, I feel like everybody, the nation is now a profile of pro protester, you know, for each region. I feel like. Yeah.

[00:16:07] And, you know, when we were talking before the show started and you thought it was going to be a big nothing, but, you know, when they did St. George or fentanyl, those protests. Right. Right. It was over a hundred cities. And I mean, as small a town as Johnstown, Pennsylvania. Right. Had police cars set on fire. And it's like, how did they do this?

[00:16:37] You know, all I want. Yep. They rioted in Richmond for like three weeks straight. No lie. Yeah. Three, three weeks in the city that police were walking down rioters and whatever, mostly peaceful protesters. You know, it was, it was a sustained effort here and here in Richmond, Virginia.

[00:17:00] So I'm, I'm thinking this is good because they practice that, you know, whatever, whatever they did the last time they're going to do it even better this time. Dave. Yeah. Can I ask you a question about a law enforcement perspective question about just rioting in general? Yep. So I'm almost ready to predict what you're going to say, but go ahead. Yeah.

[00:17:27] Well, what's the ratio of law enforcement officers in any given area jurisdiction to the population? And where's that threshold where when, when too much breaks out simultaneously in the same area, we, we don't have, and we can't afford to have police forces that can put down riots when they start. Right. What's, what's kind of ratio, what's kind of ratio you'd expect?

[00:17:55] And then, you know, how many protesters who become rioters does it take to overwhelm a jurisdiction? Oh, it's, it's almost instantly they're overwhelmed. Back when I was in college, which was a long time ago, it was, it was one police officer per thousand people. Now it's, it's more than that now, but it's not a lot more than that now.

[00:18:23] And when you look at sheriff's departments, you know, they're for the county and, and that county, you know, about the only thing they can do is protect the county jail and the county courthouse. That's it. They're not going to protect anything else. I mean, the vast majority of the U S population obeys the law.

[00:18:50] So you don't need a huge police force and they, they can't afford it. So whenever it gets this crazy, they're overwhelmed almost instantly. Hey, and I, I thought the question you were going to ask is if a guy's wearing, uh, you know, like paintball armor, a protective mask, a helmet, you know, things like that.

[00:19:19] What do the riot police do? Okay. I might, I might wear that down near the mall in DC Saturday, just to be safe. Yeah. Just in case, just in case. Now they say you got to go through a bunch of security checkpoints. So they're going to be looking, they're going to be looking through all your bags and stuff. So I don't know, but it's a perimeter.

[00:19:44] It's a perimeter with the fencing, just like after J six, it's a security perimeter and it's outside of that perimeter where, you know, you know, danger could lurk. It happened at jump first inaugural, you know, the second inaugural was pretty quiet on that front, but you know, the summer of 25, 25 is definitely trending towards, you know, looking like the summer of 2020 when, you know, the church of the presidents was burned barricades for around the white house.

[00:20:15] You know, I, it could, it could go in that direction quickly. Yeah. Yeah. The president was evacuated to the, to the bomb shelter and the white house because they thought they were going to breach the perimeter. I mean, it was crazy. And, uh, so when someone is outfitted to where they can thwart all the riot year and stuff like that, uh, it's an escalation of force. Okay.

[00:20:45] So they may say pepper spray, everybody, but that guy with the protecting mask, shoot him, you know, it's, and, and they can justify it because that guy, that one guy put on all the stuff that thwarts whatever your riot control was. He's got intent. Yeah. He has intent. More likely.

[00:21:13] You don't show up with a ballistic helmet, a protective mask and body armor, unless you're, you're intending to do something bad. Dave, another, another, another military question I'd like to ask you. I don't know if your military career, you were familiar with the, the mobilization of the guard or, uh, you know, some of that happened during Katrina where I believe some of that time you were on active duty. Yeah.

[00:21:43] So when, when guard are put onto the streets like this, that, you know, either they're issued ammo or they're not, either they can, either they can lock and load their weapons or, or they can't, uh, rules of engagement are tightly, you know, one of the most important things that all those troops are, are getting briefed on to go in. And when I was in the army, the squad leader, one of my squad leaders said, you know, the

[00:22:08] most important thing you need to know is what, you know, what, what does suit look like? What does the use of force unquestionably, what does it mean? And I can use force. Yeah. How do you think those rules of engagement are tonight for the California national guard in LA? Well, there's always one rule that trumps everything else. You have the right to defend yourself.

[00:22:34] So if you are threatened or, you know, if there's violence being perpetrated against you, you can defend yourself. And, and that defense is whatever you see as reasonable. Now, uh, let, let's hope that they're deploying military police units because they're very familiar

[00:22:59] with rules of engagement, lawful arrest, all that kind of stuff, riot control. They're trained in riot control. Dave, Dave. Yeah. Dave, I have an authority that these are infantry battalions and magazines, magazines are loaded. Rounds are not chambered. Yeah. That, that, that's tonight in LA. Damn. Okay. That's, that's wow.

[00:23:29] That's, that's wow. Right there. Uh, a couple of things I wanted to talk about. That's a Kent state waiting to happen. Yeah. Yeah. It, it, it, bad things could come of that. Yeah. So I was actually in a riot. Uh, I was a federal police officer in, uh, Fort McCoy, Wisconsin during the Cuban, uh, refugee program. Carter, Carter said, let all the Cubans in.

[00:23:59] And Castro opened up his prisons and insane asylums and let them in. So, um, we had a riot and there wasn't enough of the police or marshals. So we, we protected the lockup. Okay. And the order came down, unload your weapon. Because if you got into a tussle, they didn't want a loaded weapon out there.

[00:24:27] Even though we had, you know, we had 38s, actually three 57s, but six rounds. Okay. So we unload our weapons, but we had speed loaders. And I'm telling you, we, we could use those speed loaders quick and, and we didn't have them on our belt. We had them in our pockets. Um, yeah, it was, it was crazy. I maced a whole bunch of people.

[00:24:53] I got a humanitarian award for, I guess, macing them instead of shooting them. I don't know. No kidding. Wow. That's wow. I heard that one. That is interesting. That was Fort McCoy, Wisconsin. It was crazy. Crazy. Holy cow. Well, I think it would be important to, to, for like a precursor to action. If the situation is that dire in LA and, and, and something does go over the top and people

[00:25:23] do wind up getting shot. I think that changes the dynamic of Saturday and everybody listening should prepare accordingly. You know what I mean? People get Saturday across the country with all these no Kings protests could, some of them could be big. Some could be nothing. You know what I mean? Yeah. And that's why you wind up getting shot. I think that changed the game on that. Chin's posting in the BBN, uh, back channel about this.

[00:25:50] Uh, that that's what future danger is about is all, all of these indicators could just die down, cool off. Headlines will fall off over time. And they'll turn back to blue or not. Right. Based off this map, it's a not, and there's lots of money, lots of organization behind this. Looking at this map. Well, and they haven't. Yeah.

[00:26:16] They had since Trump was elected to plan this, you know, they're just using this as a, as the, uh, catalyst just like they did for George Floyd. I mean, he died of a heart attack. Well, look at these dots. Most of them are in the U S but there's some in Mexico and some in Canada, Vancouver down in Baja, California, Toronto, Ottawa. What is that about?

[00:26:42] Uh, another thing, maybe if you're a prepper, you want to homestead, you want to go far away from the dots, you know, like where the dots aren't and where you might want to be. I saw NBC guy earlier. That's a great way to use this map. Right. Yeah. And I said, Hey, I'm bugging in this weekend and NBC guy, you were like, yes, same thing.

[00:27:05] So, uh, yeah, this is hopefully something that in a week or two will have not gotten worse, but I've heard that the week after, uh, so I guess about 10 days from now, not just this weekend, but the weekend after they're even hoping to have a bigger event. So definitely anything that any of you guys would, if you were in Trump's shoes do differently,

[00:27:34] you think he's handling this? Well, I don't know if there is much as he could do. I'll tell you what I think it is. He's conflating his birthday with the, the, the parade is, is, is bait. The ice, the ice raids are going to escalate, uh, the timing of this Los Angeles ice raid. I don't think it was a mistake. It's before a very large demonstration of force.

[00:27:59] So now we're talking about demonstration of force, holding at risk and, and, and, and working towards a situation where declaring an insurrection. Is, is, is factual. Right. And I don't know if the antifa are sane enough to not take the bait. Definitely not. They're going to go for it.

[00:28:27] They got to go all in on this one. Like they're, if you play poker, eventually you, your stacks running down, anteing up or hitting the blinds. You're slowly, but surely losing Democrats. They're in real bad shape. They need this. They got the money behind it. I feel like they got to go all out for it. Well, I think what they need is they need people to get killed by the military so that they can say, this is all Trump's fault.

[00:28:55] I told you Gavin Newsom was right. Yep. Which is funny to say out loud. No, that's why I said when, when they said, uh, when, uh, future Dan said magazines loaded rounds, not chambered. I'm like, holy crap. Give them a three foot stick, have the weapons in the rear, ready to deploy if the shooting starts.

[00:29:24] But the first one to die, you know, I hate to say it, but it, the first one to die would, I would want to be a military person. I mean, and if you look at the, can you pull up the, uh, archive on, uh, federal property militarily reinforced Ben, this hasn't, this hasn't happened like this since at least the history of future danger to this degree.

[00:29:53] So, you know, very important distinction. They're not going in there to put down riots that requires the insurrection act invoking an insurrection, suspending posse comitatus. We're not, we're not there yet. Right. But we're getting close. These troops are, are, are going and surrounding federal property so that the federal police agencies, ICE, customer and board patrol, they don't have to defend their own buildings. Yeah.

[00:30:22] And if, if anybody goes near those buildings and, and, and presents deadly force, they could get shot that way. Like starting tonight. Yep. Dang. That that's true. That's true. I mean, uh, you know, I heard today that they're jumping through their rectums trying to get the rules of engagement. And I'm like, wait, this is already set down in manuals.

[00:30:51] You know, why are they changing it? Unless it was different during Biden than it is now, which possibly could be, but these guys are, especially military police. They are trained for riot control and demonstrations and all that kind of stuff. Hey, and what are our adversaries thinking?

[00:31:21] Dave, uh, when I was in, uh, the 82nd airborne in 2000 with the hanging Chad drama and the Supreme court decision to validate Florida's elections and, and, and therefore George W. Bush one, we were activated under operation garden plot. My, my, my platoon was issued riot gear.

[00:31:48] We went out on the parade field and, and did the, the, the, the entire, you know, Roman legion maneuver that was shields and, and how to, how to grab people that, you know, after you club them, you know, open up the shield wall, grab, grab and zip tie people. So, so, so, and we were on orders to deploy to the military district of Washington, which is Washington DC where the president commands the DC national guard directly.

[00:32:17] And, and we never got called that, that, that didn't come of it, but they, they were already concerned about that. Those plans operation garden plot might not be called that now, but they're in effect. They're in effect. All of these active duty army divisions are, are definitely aware that at any moment they could be put into cities to put that, put, to put down riot, this rebellion. I'm hoping everything cools down, but I, I'm not sure that it will this month.

[00:32:48] No. And I think it's, I think it's all on the other side. You know, it, we have put, you know, Trump has put the forces in there. Now it depends on what they do. So I, I think it's all up to them and I don't think it's going to turn out well. 700 Marines. On this. Yeah.

[00:33:18] I was going to say right here, we're looking at Newsom files, emergency restraining order after Trump activates additional national guardsmen. I saw that was denied. I saw a judge denied that a judge went with the president on that one and denied the temporary restraining order. There's a hearing layer there this week though. Okay. Relatively breaking news here on Patriot power. I'm loving it.

[00:33:44] I think a good thing for the listeners to do in this situation is if they're in one of these areas where riots break out, I had like a three piece combo that I used here in Richmond. I don't know that it'll work as well. Five years moving forward, but brought the broadcastify app gave me the ability to listen into the fire department in Richmond. And I coupled that with obviously local news.

[00:34:13] And I coupled that with social media. And if you're going to utilize social media, then you have to find out, you have to do at least a little research. Maybe I'll talk about this on my show tomorrow morning. Um, on the hashtags that people are putting up and I'm talking about the hashtags that people are putting up with their cell phones in the crowd. Because the one godsend is that these, when these riots break out, people video that they take videos.

[00:34:40] So you can see in real time what it helped me to do listening to those three things was I could figure out where in the city, the protest began. And then what direction the protest was headed. They were very far away from my house. So I was never really that worried about it, but it gave me the ability between listening to where the fire department was staging trucks, where they thought the protest was going to

[00:35:06] go, what the actual footage from the protesters was right on Facebook lives, X live, whatever. You might even consider getting the old blue sky app. I don't know if you guys have heard about blue sky yet, but Blue sky is the liberal Twitter now. Yeah. Yeah. So there's probably a lot of shit going on there. Uh, but those three things really, really helped. Well, to be honest, what it did for me is it helped me sleep at night.

[00:35:31] It helped me say, all right, this thing is all the way across the river up on the north side of the city. This is where they're heading down Cary street or whatever the situation is. I don't have to worry about anything. There's no action needed on my end. They're not going to make their way, you know, 10 miles to my house, whatever the situation is. So that, that was, that was a big deal for me for a few weeks, um, in 2020, just sort of getting good at monitoring that movement.

[00:35:59] And, uh, like I said, that the best thing to find out if you're going to monitor social media is sort of that. I know hashtags, no hashtag, no Kings hashtag, no King protests right now is pretty big. I'm sure you'll find you, you'll get that kind of Intel, um, on what people are doing and where they're at. If you, if you look that up right now for what's going on in LA. Yep. And that's for folks that were, uh, following along on video. We were sharing that website earlier was no Kings.org.

[00:36:28] I think, and it had the map of not only marches, but I guess some bigger rallies as well. I'm not even going to go back to it. Screw them. But long story short, uh, there was hundreds, hundreds of locations. So we're talking thousands of people organizing and working this and trying to draw in tens of thousands of others. So very coordinated. Go ahead, uh, Dave.

[00:36:57] No, I was, I was just chuckling at you and, and, you know, James gets to sell more t-shirts. Hey, the, uh, drought on prepping is now gone. The Trump effect. Remember we, we all, all of us on the call today right now we're saying, no, you keep your prepping going just cause he's in office. We're going to need it possibly more than ever.

[00:37:22] And are any of you on here on this line right now, uh, regretting any preps you made? I definitely have not. No, no. And I processed, uh, well, I say, I, I I'm the unskilled labor. Okay. Maria process 10 ducks today. We have them section quartered. They're cooling down and, uh, we got those ready to go in their freezer. That was today.

[00:37:50] And, you know, if I had a prepper tip to give you guys, uh, the hardest to process of these animals, ducks is number one. They're just, they're terrible. Turkeys are number two chickens. Number three rabbits. Pretty quick, pretty easy, but nothing beats quail. Quail is wham, bam.

[00:38:17] I think she can do, uh, a quail every six minutes. Wow. Yeah, I know. And without cutting her fingers off. Holy cow. In an ironic tie back to the news, because you're talking about butchering animals, we got news of like protests and people jumping on, uh, you know, basically physically blocking

[00:38:44] ice raids in meat factories in Omaha, Nebraska tonight. Like the, those raids are going on. They are cleaning out car washes, clothing factories, meat packing, all the businesses that, that put to work illegal labor. And so they know, they know what time it is. This is the mass deportations that were campaigned for and happening.

[00:39:12] And it, you know, it's a strange tie back to current events from, uh, the quail processing at, at, at the Donestead. But you just, I just wanted to get that in there. It's like the ice raids, they're ramping up during this, not down. Um, these people, I'm not even gonna say they got guts are just dumb as hell getting on U.S. Marshall suburbans. Like, yeah. Wow. Uh, they're lucky. It could be some residual effects from all that too. Yeah.

[00:39:41] I mean, you are talking about labor force affected, right? We're going to lose people from meat packing plants and all those different jobs. That's going to affect me probably just in the short term. Maybe though. You never know. Um, you know, now you're getting into supply chain and all that kind of stuff. I will say this. I've worked in commercial insurance pretty much my entire career and the type of companies that will hire these illegals under the table, just treat their employees so bad.

[00:40:11] They get hurt. They don't let them get their benefits. They will, you know, work them to the grindstone. No overtime. And not to mention safety hazards. And they're just scumbags. Like the employers, they need to go after the employers as much. And well, that's what we're watching on this. This is a, I haven't seen this video yet. It's a. No, but why don't that guy just arrest him? Well, that's what I'm saying. Suburban fool. Yeah. I think the FBI will probably come for him. The FBI is on it too now. Yep.

[00:40:41] Yeah. They got his face. Biometrics of face and gait. The way you walk. Yeah. One of the hardest things to change. My hunchback. Um, yeah, this is, I haven't seen this video. There's so many videos in, out there. We could spend hours going through them all. Um, I'm going to be, you know, watching late tonight. See what's going on. It's over there in LA. I guess it's 6 PM. So it's not even sunset yet, but, uh, hopefully nothing goes down tonight.

[00:41:07] Nothing goes down this weekend, but future Dan, you're going to be in the district of Columbia, military district of Washington. You said, uh, on, on Saturday, one question I have for you. I didn't mean to laugh. This is a very serious topic, but you said you were going to go there with some paintball armor. And then a few minutes later, Dave Jones says, yeah, who would go to such a thing armored up unless they had bad intentions? Obviously you don't have a bad intention.

[00:41:33] Obviously all four of us are peaceful and aren't going to have any vigilante justice or anything stupid like that either. But tell us a little bit more. Maybe you can, uh, Dan about what you're going to be, you know, go in there on Saturday. And are you actually going to go through the checkpoints? Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to go in and see the stuff up close and, uh, stay for the fire. It works, but, uh, no, I was just joking. I'm not, I'm not wearing that gear, but, uh, okay. I did. I thought so. I just wanted to confirm. Hey, Ben.

[00:42:03] Uh, so we're getting on the hour mark. Perhaps we can look at the outputs of your statistical analysis and for, for ration or ruin. How about this? How about we play a couple ads real quick. If anybody needs to go get some water, Yeah. We'll come back and knock that out for 15 minutes. What do you say? Yeah. Go for it. All right, everyone mute yourselves. I'll mute myself. We're going to play a couple of ads. We'll be right back folks.

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[00:44:45] If things really do go south, which hopefully they won't, but if they do, we may be doing some live broadcast this weekend. Maybe even feature Dan from down in D.C. So, gentlemen, how about I share my little spreadsheet? We could do a cost comparison and put a bow tie on the Rational Ruin. What do you say? Yeah, it's going to be great. All right. Let's make this happen.

[00:45:15] Let's see. We'll stop sharing the Lima Tango, and we will put the spreadsheet on there. I've got to adjust my microphone. You guys see that? Yeah. So, I'll run through very quickly, keeping in mind a great majority of people are listening and cannot see my screen. So, as a reminder, Rational Ruin was four weeks of survival food.

[00:45:43] We got Mountain House. We got Ready Hour. We got XMREs. And we got Jonestead. Now, there was different packaging sizes, right? There was kind of individual meals that were smaller, and then there were the larger family style. We talked all about that. If you want more info, go check out. We had four reviews each week, one for each week.

[00:46:08] But anyway, what I did is I took that data and just crunched it as best I could. There's really three, I think, three variables I'm looking at here. Number one is cost. Of course, I'm trying to estimate the cost per meal. And let's just say a meal is between 600 to 800 calories. The Mountain House was actually a little smaller. We'll get to that. But we're looking for the cost per meal.

[00:46:38] We're looking at the calories per meal. But we're also looking for protein, right? So, protein, calories, cost. Keep those in mind. I tried my best. Really, okay, the methodology for the cost is I went online, found the MSRP for the Ready Hour, the Mountain House, and the XMREs. Of course, the Jonestead, the homemade freeze-dried. That was week four.

[00:47:07] I had to make a little bit more estimates. We'll go into that. But for Ready Hour, Mountain House, XMRE, it was pretty straightforward. I didn't get the sales price, right? The 30% off, 10% off, or any specials, nothing like that. I went straight to their website. And I went straight to Amazon, compared and contrasted a couple different sample sizes, came up with this. Ready Hour, about $6.67 per meal.

[00:47:34] Mountain House, about $11.29 per meal. XMRE, $12.50 per meal. Jonestead will get to that shortly. So, keep that. It's going to have its own segment. Is that one serving? Yes. Now, here's the thing. This is, what is a serving is a great question.

[00:48:03] So, what I tried to do is, what is, one MRE counts as one pack. One Mountain House package counts as one pack. But the Ready Hour had a lot of, you know, four or eight serving packages that were family sized. So, I tried to normalize that a bit and say like half of the strawberry cream of wheat, which we hated, half of that is included here. Not the entire thing, because it's overkill. So, tried to normalize that.

[00:48:33] But you can really gauge that based off the calories per pack. Now, these calories per pack, these numbers come directly from the data that I input over those four weeks. Remember, I have a very detailed spreadsheet of all the different food I've eaten, with all the calories, all that, all the way through May, and I've been keeping it decently. So, this is real calorie and protein data taken directly. It's no estimate. It's actual written down directly from the back.

[00:49:02] So, Ready Hour averaged about a thousand calories per pack. But that is a ton of, well, creamy wheat, the creamy broccoli soup, like lots of creamy stuff. It's just not that great, but it has tons of calories. Not a ton of protein, necessarily. The Mountain House was a lot smaller servings, though. Truly, it was.

[00:49:29] The XMRE was a good amount, 837 calories per pack. Some of them had like 800, some had 860. It ranged around there, but 837. So, and the protein comes out to Ready Hour actually had more per pack. But, I want to bring this back to cost. That's the main thrust of this is the cost. And there's two metrics we want to look at.

[00:49:57] Cost per 2,000 calories. So, just think of it as one day. So, what's the cost for 2,000 calories? I don't care how many packs it is or meals. 2,000 calories. How much does that cost? And how much does it cost for one gram of protein? So, run that all through. It's not that complicated. These numbers are very telling. First and foremost, for 2,000 calories of Mountain House, it was $44. $44.

[00:50:26] Whereas, Ready Hour was only about $13. $13.39. Now, you look at the protein on the other hand. The protein cost of Mountain House was way more expensive per gram of protein. The XMREs, more expensive than Ready Hour. But, at least for the calories aspect, the XMREs were cheaper per calorie than Mountain House. But, not on the protein factor. And we talked about this.

[00:50:56] The XMRE had a lot of sugar, carbs, and fats that tasted good and will fuel you. But, maybe not a lot of protein. Whereas, the Mountain House had more protein. And, again, we'll get to the Jonestead. The Jonestead had just about the lowest price per gram of protein. And, I know for a fact that protein is a lot better than the Ready Hour protein. Which is mostly protein from wheat and soy.

[00:51:23] Not real protein from meat and eggs. So, anyway. These are a lot of numbers. I threw it at everybody. I didn't do the best job of presenting. But, I will say, Mountain House is clearly the most expensive per calorie. Ready Hour is clearly the cheapest per calorie. XMRE is actually a pretty good deal when it comes to calorie.

[00:51:48] But, if you're looking at per gram of protein, XMRE is actually the most expensive. So, future Dan, let me throw it to you first. Any observations or questions? And, mostly on Ready Hour, Mountain House, and XMRE. We're going to get to the Jonestead in a second. That's an awesome analysis. I'm just trying to absorb it. But, I just want to thank you.

[00:52:13] And, before the show ends, I want to make sure I thank Dave Jones for his presentation. A future dangerous heat map dashboard tonight. That was epic. But, thank you, Dave, for that. But, thank you, Ben, for this analysis. I think we've learned a lot. And, a lot of expectation. Maybe some surprises in here. I was surprised how expensive Mountain House is.

[00:52:42] And, I double-checked these figures. Because, it's $44 for 2,000 calories at Mountain House. Now, again, this is at the MSRP. You can get cheaper sometimes. But, you can get all these a little bit cheaper. And, the Mountain House being like $10 more. Pretty much, you know, 30 plus percent more than XMRE. I did not expect that at all. James, Dave, any questions we can talk about this? Then, we're going to go into the Jonestead.

[00:53:12] I think, you know, I'm real glad you did the protein cost. Because, it further verified what I thought was the biggest takeaway personally from this whole exercise. Which is protein, protein, protein. You know? Any one of these is not a standout winner on the protein. So, not just from the cost perspective. But, also from, you know, I'm not entirely sure what was protein in my XMRE.

[00:53:42] Entree. Sometimes. You know what I mean? Yeah. So, it just, it really. I think that that protein supplement, no matter what you wind up. Personally, no matter what I wind up. Whatever I wind up storing. Having that protein supplement is what. What is the biggest game changer for me going forward. Absolutely. Dave. Well, there's just too many variables.

[00:54:10] For the Jonestead. Because, you know, we just started freeze drying. We've learned a whole bunch. Since you guys got what we had packaged and ready to go. Yeah. Eggs. You know. Free range. Chickens. Protein. Rich eggs. Eggs. Um. And, of course, the stew. And the, uh. The soup. Um.

[00:54:40] And that's just what we had. Now we're, we're doing much better. And we're using mylar bags. And oxygen absorbers. And, um. But, jeez. You know, getting your own freeze dryer is a huge, huge step. I mean, it's a. We had been looking at it for years. And, uh. You know, we can dry. We, we do all the stuff to preserve our food. We have five freezers. Three refrigerators. Uh.

[00:55:09] So, the, the freeze dryer was kind of like the last thing. So, you know, I, I don't know. It's, it's not for everybody. But, uh. We've been running it now almost 24 seven. And putting up stuff. Let me go through how I estimated. Now, I will say. Sure. The Jones did cost us estimates. Took a little bit of, uh.

[00:55:37] Creative license on my end. So, it could be more. Could easily be less. And I'll explain why. But, here's what we did. There were packages of a dozen eggs. There was package of beef stew. Or I think it was pork stew, actually. And. Yeah. Package of chicken stew. And by the way, they were awesome. All three. Those stews were just so darn good. Uh. What I did. This total cost is kind of what I estimated.

[00:56:06] Each package to cost. But, again. There could be a range. I'm going to start with the eggs. Because you and I. Or maybe Maria and I. More specifically. Transact with real money. For these eggs. Yes. I buy my eggs through you. And, uh. For one dozen eggs. I pay six dollars. So, I assumed that. That's not your cost. That's really what you sell it for. But I just put. These dozen eggs. Cost us six dollars. To produce. Use. Then. You need.

[00:56:35] The bag. And, oh yeah. You need a freeze dryer. So, without getting too fancy. I know that freeze dryer is pretty expensive. You got to. Amortize that. Over time. The more you use the freeze dryer. The cheaper it is. Per bag that you use it on. Of course. But if you buy a. What was it? A twenty five hundred dollar freeze dryer. And you only use it. Twenty times. You're not. You're not. You're not making your money back. Yeah. At all. So, what I said is.

[00:57:05] Maybe it costs. Three dollars. For those dozen eggs. You know. Maybe a dollar for the bag. Two dollars for the machine itself. Then. A dollar. Twenty seven. I use Chad GPT to try to estimate this. Based off kilowatt hours and stuff. I don't know. Like. You know. A dollar. A little more than a dollar. Of electricity to do that. I actually think it's probably less. But that. You know. Depending on where you live. You might have cheap electricity. You might have real expensive. Anyway. It all rolls up. Where.

[00:57:33] Somewhere between ten to twelve bucks. For. The beef stew. The chickens. Or. Excuse me. The pork stew. Chicken stew. Or a dozen eggs. Kind of in that ten to twelve. And that. Is competitive with these commercial. Like. It's cheaper than the mountain house. Only slightly more expensive than XMREs. That's on the calorie basis. It's actually way cheaper. It's. Almost half as expensive per gram of protein than XMREs.

[00:58:03] And it's. You know. Much less per gram of protein than mountain house. The ready hour has a cheaper cost per gram of protein. But again. That's not pork. It's not organic eggs from your own. You know. Your own property. So. I think. Honestly. I think. The Jones Stead. Can compete on this. Again. If. You're planning to. Make this a lifestyle. Right. If you're using the freeze dryer for multiple years.

[00:58:33] Multiple harvests. And you already have tons. You know. Of surplus that you can't eat. And guess what. You guys have that. Dave. So. Yeah. I think this is economical. It makes sense for you guys to do. Well. Thanks. That. That looks really. Accurate. I would say. There we go. I see. I love this stuff. Hey Ben. Just. Just. Just to look at some more angles to the entire. You know. Point. The brashner ruin. There's other.

[00:59:03] There's. There's. There's factors outside of your model. Right. There was a taste factor. There was a form factor of packaging. Depending on what. But there's also duration. So. What was interesting to me is the highest calorie count. The most cost effective calorie count. Is. Is topping out on the duration. Too. And. True. Not. Not to. You know. Throw. A cold blanket on homesteading. But.

[00:59:33] There's a cost of labor. That's not in the model now. Right. So. If you're dedicated to the lifestyle. It's easy to just discount your labor as. You know. Not. Not add it to it. But. Economically. You could transfer your labor into something else. And buy. Repackaged food. And then. And then there's the preservatives. The additives. Right. So. Jones said. Far and away. You know. It's not built to last 30 years. So. It doesn't need the preservatives.

[01:00:01] Lots of externalities to the model. But. I still think the model is tremendously. Favoring. Homesteading. Farming. It. It. It. It has. The longest. Potential. In. In a real. Collapse scenario. If. If you keep. If you can keep your farm safe. It. It. It's just. Obviously. The. The most nutritious. Sustainable. Choice. Everything else. You.

[01:00:31] You can buy a certain amount of it. But. You might run out. Yep. Especially people show up at your door. And you. You know. Friends or family. And you. All of a sudden. Your one year supply is a two. Three month supply. You're like. Oh boy. Hey. I got a question for the group. Yeah. How much weight did you gain back? How much did you lose? And how much did you gain back? You go first. Future Dan. I'm.

[01:01:00] I'm about at. Right where I finished. I've actually. I. I went further and lost. Even more weight. After it ended. But it's. It's taken a lot of discipline. But. The alternative fasting aspect. Or ration or ruin. Has definitely. Conditioned my body. To. Far more easily. Accept longer periods. Without eating. Which is. You know. Healthier too. So you kind of reset. Your metabolism.

[01:01:31] I did. Yeah. Nice. James. I want. Exactly. I just saw you unmute. I think you have an announcement as well. So go ahead. I surprisingly. At. Well. I'll just. I don't weigh myself that much. But I. In my workout fitness app. I took my weight from. January ish. And it was. One. Seventy five. And that was probably. A lot of holiday. That's high for me. But it was one. Seventy five.

[01:02:01] And. I. Uh. At the height of ration a ruin. I went to the gym. And weighed myself. And I was one. Sixty seven. And then. I want to say it was. Last. Monday. I was at the gym. In the early. Hours. So it was. You know. I'm talking like five o'clock. In the morning. And. I was back up to 170. Already. So I don't know. If. If it's going to level out. Like that. Or what. I don't really concern myself.

[01:02:31] With weight. All that much. Um. But. Yeah. I definitely lost a hell of a lot more weight. Than I thought I was going to lose. It was almost alarming. I think if I was under 165. I would have been like. Uh-uh. This ain't working for me. Because I'm too short to be. Uh. Lightweight also. You know what I mean? So. But yeah. I mean. It definitely was a thing. I will say that. That the. One thing that the Jonestead food did for me. Was.

[01:03:01] Gave me a. Feeling of. Peace of mind. Because I knew I was eating real food. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I think that over time. We only had the. Additive laden. Ready hour food. For a week. Which is a lot. And it was our only food. Oh boy. It is. It was our only food. But. I think had I been eating that for three months.

[01:03:30] It would really probably start to eat away at my psyche. I would. And you know. Let's say. You're starting to get sick. Or you. Your kids sick. Or. You know what I mean? Health is not looking the way it's supposed to look. And you're eating off this ready hour stuff all the time. And that's all you got to eat. I think that would start to eat me up a little bit. Mentally. Um. Where. I'm eating again.

[01:04:00] Like I'm eating food again. You know. It's not. I kind of felt that way with Mountain House too. Because I do like Mountain House. And I think their ingredients are good. Um. But it was nothing like the. Like knowing that Maria made it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Well that's good. Uh. I wanted to talk about my weight. But I just saw something. In the back. Or not really the back channel. Just the. The chat. The show chat. Shots fired in LA.

[01:04:29] I don't know if that's real or not. I mean. Okay. I was perusing Twitter. And I've. Some guy shooting a gun. Off a corner. It's a lot. I don't know. You know. It's hard to trust anything these days with the AI. It's like. That's what I said. Honestly. Okay. Well we'll just hope for the best. And uh. Prep for the worst. Super quick. If you can see my. See the screen here. I dropped. I would say. During the entire exercise. I lost six pounds.

[01:04:57] And I've gained two back. On average. But I feel like. Most of the two that I gained back. Is just having. Food in my system. If you know what I mean. Without being. Gross about it. Water weight. You have more food in you. You hold on to more water as well. But. Hey. Dave Jones himself said. I was looking. Looking trim today. When he saw me. Absolutely. I definitely lost a few pounds. I was able. I did gain a couple back. But I. Even though.

[01:05:27] I have a little bit to lose. I don't want to lose much. Like James was saying. Like. If stuff is really. Going bad. And you really didn't need to ration. You don't want to lose weight. Like. That's the last thing you want to do. If the power's out. Anything's going to be. Gone for. Months at a time. Um. You don't want to be losing a pound a week. A pound a half. A week. Anyway. Keep a. Have a little love handles on you folks. It's okay. 18. 20% body fat. Because. You will lose it all. In the first month.

[01:05:56] If stuff really. Happened. Don't you guys think? Yeah. Just out of stress alone. Exactly. You're not going to be sleeping. You're going to be moving all the time. Just imagine if you had to go. Like. How much more physical activity you'll have. I guess if you're. You know. Hiding in a. In a bunker. Maybe. You won't be moving too much. But let's. In a lot of scenarios. You'll be a lot more physically active. With less food at the same time. I kept my exercise. Pretty much the same. But I didn't increase it. I mean.

[01:06:25] If I didn't do protein supplementation. And I had double or tripled my calorie output every day. I would have lost twice as much weight honestly. And it would have felt a lot worse too. So. Man. I learned a ton from Ration of Ruin. I'm going to go back and listen to our recaps as well. Maybe in a month or two. Just to jog my memory again. In Tribal Commander. If you have the ability to string them all together. Sometime this summer.

[01:06:55] As like a. Collection. That would be cool too. Otherwise folks. Just wherever you get your. PBN. Just go search Ration. R-A-T-I-O-N. Just search Ration. And it should show up. I think guys. This has been an awesome episode. Anybody else got. Want to talk about either Ration of Ruin or. Well. I want to say another great. Another great exercise. In the books. All right. Because you guys hit it out of the park every time.

[01:07:26] This was a future dad's idea. This is all him. Great idea. And a group effort to make it happen. If anybody. I'm ready for the next one man. If anybody's feeling. If anybody's feeling left out. Listening to these Ration of Ruin. As I mentioned in the previous Ration of Ruin shows. We're. We're going to be conducting a 72 hour fast. PBN wide. For all those who would like to participate. The 27th. 28th. 29th. That Friday.

[01:07:55] Saturday. Sunday. End of the month. Essentially. You know. So. And these will be a quarterly thing. That we'll do. You can do 24. You can do 48. You can do 72. Whatever you want to do. But I. You know. Having done this with. With the Patriot Power Hour guys. And having talked to other people. Who do the fasting. Maria. Dave. It's clear that this is. You know. It's just a part of. Being human. And I think it's. It's an essential part. Of cleaning up your body.

[01:08:26] Particularly this day and age. With the. Chemicals. And everything else. That goes into it. Like. I think it's essential. To good health. And if you can stick it out. 72 hours. I think you'll get the most benefit. So. Consider joining us. 27th. 28th. 29th. Of June. Yeah. You'll learn so much. About your body. And yourself. And how it reacts. When it's in calorie. Deprivation. You go into ketose. You'll have.

[01:08:56] Spurts of energy. Energy. You definitely got to keep that salt level up though. Well. There's all kinds of things. I'm sure. The intrepid commander will talk you through it all. We. We made this stuff called. Snake juice. It's a. Like electrolyte mix. And. That's what we lived on. And. And if you think you can't. You're probably right. But if you think you can.

[01:09:26] You're probably right too. Sure. All right folks. I think episode 308 is in the bag. Appreciate you guys joining us. Intrepid commander. NBC guy. Special guest tonight. We got it. We got to do this some more often. Like once a month or something. The four of us. I love it. Yeah. Pleasure to join you guys. Yeah. Thank you Dave. Thank you James. You joined us a lot this past month on Patriot Power Hour. I think it makes for a better show. You're welcome back anytime.

[01:09:57] Thank you. Thank you. All right. Catch you guys later. Take care. Prep on. Prep on.